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Posted By: Jay NaPier <jay.napier@comcast.net> In Response To: Actually, the 2003 lawsuits were by states Attorneys General (Mel. White)
Sunday, 24 July 2005, at 4:39 p.m.
> I'm not sure that Coastal learned anything. It's still the same old
> "two up" that so many people complained about being bilked in.
> In spite of the lawsuits in 2002-3 (which they lost) I see them back with
> the same old scheme, retuned a bit.:
> http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/Archives2003_2.html (search for
> "coastal")
> http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/Archives2004_1.html (ditto)
> MLM Watchdog has archived a lot of the legal complaints about this and the
> Aussie 2-up system.
> Like this one from someone who signed up under a director....
> http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff119119.htm
> Or others who have been hurt by spending a lot of money on this:
> http://www.wahm.com/boards/Forum59/HTML/000198.html
> One of their recruiting methods in the past has been to contact people
> posting job resumes online.
> http://www.papersourceonline.com/discus/.scripts/show.cgi?16583/10644
JAY NAPIER REPLY:
You bring up some very valid points and I appreciate your bringing them up. First, it's really no different than purchasing a Canon Digital Rebel Digital Camera online. I had several options and both my photo friends told me not to buy from the online retailer I bought from. If I had not gotten the camera - It's not Canon's fault.
> I don't doubt you're doing well, because as I recall you have a large
> downline. But so far the ones we've seen who have been hurt by the Aussie
> 2-up plan and CV tend to be the little guy, particularly those who aren't
> in MLMs and don't have a big downline that they can push the opportunity
> to.
JAY'S REPLY:
First, I don't push anything. I also do not, nor do I recommend cross recruiting. I started on a blank slate. I did my marketing and Do Not go after my friends and family. Why??? I want to work with folks who WANT a home based business. I don't have any friends who want a home based business. If that wanted to talk about it, they will let me know.
What's interesting is how many will complain about different products, pay plans and the old New Company or 5 years +. Folks, it's really simple. Top income earners have been founds in every pay plan, every product catagory and new and old companies.
Legal Issues are nothing to sneeze at when it comes to ANY company. How many companies in network marketing are being sued for changing pay plans, changing product formulations and cheating distributors??? Alot.
The issues mentioned are against 1 director, not the Board of Directors of Coastal. There are some shady directors with Coastal. Heck, one group has chosen to market a call centers and charge $700 more for our level 1 package.
Anyone who'd like to learn more about Coastal Vacations can contact me directly at 615.573.2536
Jay NaPier
$1000 per sale or pennies on the dollar, you decide
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