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Re: Knowingly obstructing justice? Let me clarify......

Posted By: The Tim <tim@thetimtimes.com>
Tuesday, 28 June 2005, at 10:03 a.m.

In Response To: Knowingly obstructing justice? (The Roadie)

Good points and I'm certainly not suggesting that ANYBODY do anything ILLEGAL !!! And in this SPECIFIC case, perhaps the records ought to be kept, but I do not know of any LEGAL REQUIREMENT to do so. If you do, please illuminate. Short of a court order, there is no law that I know of that forces ISP's, Website owners, etc to do it as a matter of law.

Civic duty...Roadie, you know I'm a big fan of yours and I've noticed you cover me a time or two when things got contentious, but civic duty to what? Some whackjob newbie troll THINKS she MIGHT have picked up an harasser from MawMaw's forum. Funny it's never happened before that I know of and frankly, it's just as likely (if there's ANY truth to her story in the first place) that her problems result from overagressive spamming for one of her dizzops. Is it the civic duty of every single place she's visited, emailed, spammed, advertised with, etc. to engage in chasing down her supposed harrasser?

There's no good thing that can come out of it for MawMaw. If she were to get supoenaed, and she had the records she'd have no choice but to waste whatever time necessary to deliver them in whatever format law enforcement requests. This would put everybody who visits or posts here under the suspicion of law enforcement. Me and Mike don't have anything to hide, but there are people who SIMPLY WOULDN'T POST HERE if they felt like they might accidentally be exposed to such scrutiny for doing nothing at all. My point is that there's absolutely no good reason for her to WASTE HER TIME on such nonsense and that it is easy enough for her to avoid by just making it a POLICY to purge log files on a regular (daily, weekly, monthly) basis.

Enjoy.

> That's one way to avoid one's civic duty.

> Sure do. I want the perps to get caught. Your advice to MaaMaw is to avoid
> the hassle. I would not blame her for running the forum as she wishes, but
> if you were getting harassed by prank calls, would YOU advise anybody with
> evidence to just flush it and tell you to pound sand?

> The power of the Golden Rule seems very weak in you, grasshopper.

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