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Re: No thanks, Tom...Trying to figure out if you're kidding

Posted By: Tom
Sunday, 24 April 2005, at 10:06 a.m.

In Response To: No thanks, Tom... (Rick K.)

Rick,
I'm not sure if you're kidding with your conspiracy theory-like attack on the URL I had in my post. First off, your phone number is optional. Secondly, anyone can create an email address in about 3 seconds if they want to get more information without giving out their personal information. Fourth, the words to describe this marketing method is lead qualification, so that the only people who receive information are the people who have requested it. I get the feeling you don't know the definition of spam, as this is the exact opposite of spam. "Fill-all-this-out-so-we-can-spam-you-to-death-bait"? We don't engage in any spamming and anyone who requests information can stop receiving information at any time by opting out. It appears that you have no knowledge about how ethical online marketing works and you're assuming that we engage in unethical marketing without having any idea what this is.
You automatically assume that this is some sort of trick aimed at getting "suckers" to give out their personal information.
I'd like to congratulate you on having the #1 most negative attitude and perception of things out of anyone I have ever come across, and I would highly discourage you, therefore, from investing your time into any business endeavor, as you're clearly someone who's determined to find something wrong with any business you start. If you invested even a tenth of that negative energy into making a business work, you would be a highly successful, contagiously positive person. Instead, you choose to channel your energy into negativity about things you know nothing about, as demonstrated in your post. That's a hard way to go through life.
Finding excuses to not even learn more about something and dismissing it as a scam before knowing what you're talking about is quite an ignorant approach to take. Perhaps the most comical element about your post is the fact that I simply placed my URL at the bottom of my post. I didn't tell anyone to click on it and I didn't post a message about how great my business opportunity is. You simply took it upon yourself to click on my URL and then immediately posted a bunch of negative nonsense about something you have no knowledge of.
Tom

> If you've got to give all sorts of personal information, like your name,
> e-mail address, and phone number before you can get to see what the offer
> is about...

> No thanks. There's gotta be a word to describe these kind of knucklehead
> presentations...how about "spam bait??" Or "
> Fill-all-this-out-so-we-can-spam-you-to-death bait?

> I'll pass. (And, so will a lot of other people.) But, that might be the
> whole principle behind the setup. The smart ones will pass, the ones that
> don't know any better will bite, and the business gets to build a lerge
> "sucker list."

A business I'm personally having success with

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