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Posted By: Larry Foster <blackstonecap@yahoo.com>
Thursday, 21 April 2005, at 7:29 a.m.

The problem with the crusaders that are out to protect you is that they think that everything is a scam. Infomercials are just marketing and advertising. Like all marketing and advertising, there are some good merchants and some bad ones.
The first thing to remember is they are lead generators for a back end product.
The second is that if you are offended by them or can't resist the urge to pull out your credit card, turn the station!
Infomercials are not inherently bad; they are just long commercials. I don't see anyone here telling what a rip-off regular commercials are.
As far as John Reed, he has little to no credibility. He's just negative.
Here are some facts about him.
http://www.sowpub.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/read/24459
As far as some of the gurus to avoid, I can't comment on the whole list, but I do have personal knowledge and experience with some and they're not rip-offs. That is unless you think that having to pay for your education is a rip-off. You know,like college. You pay a ton of money to go to college with NO assurance of success or even a guarantee you will find a job.
The ones I have experience with and short comments are:
Bryan Ellis- I am on his mailing list and have received FREE valuable info from his e-mails and teleseminars.
Jeff Kaller- I have taken his home study course as well as attended his 4 day boot camp. Jeff really knows his stuff and I personally know people who are making those big checks in short sales. I have not been able to do it, but I don't think that is a result of Jeff's training.
Ron LeGrand- He is the best, bar none. If you invest in his training and actually do something with it, you will do real estate deals. I am a full-time investor (not a rich one)that utilizes Ron's system in a small, stagnant, rural market in western Pa. I make enough that I don't have to have a job.
Without LeGrand, I would have failed completely and had to had to go to work at some job I hated.
Al Lowry-Dr. Lowry is the "grandaddy" of creative real estate and all of this spawned from him. I have some of his material and have had the privilege of hearing him speak several times. Besides, his material is fairly low-cost.
Russ Whitney-I won't comment on him other than to say that he got a lot of my money and it would be a cold day in Hades before he get another cent.
Ted Thomas-I have his Tax Lien and preforeclosure info.Ted is a brilliant marketer. I was a little disappointed in a boot camp I attended on preforeclosures, but there are people who have had great success with his stuff.
There are some on the list that are well-known for being in trouble. I'll let you find them.
This is long enough. Bottom line-LeGrand is good; John Reed is questionable as far as someone that I would want guiding me in my financial decisions.
Here's the link again for John Reed.
http://www.sowpub.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/read/24459

> Here is a site that lists gurus to avoid.

> The link is http://www.foreclosures.com/pages/gurus_to_avoid.asp

> The list is

> ForeclosureTraining.com

> National Grants Conference

> Robert G. Allen

> Robert Barry

> John Beck

> Bobby Blair

> Peter Bleyleben

> Sonny Bloch

> Peter Conti and David Finkel

> Wade Cook

> Russ Dalbey

> Dave Del Dotto

> FreeRealEstateTraining.com

> Michael R. Enelow

> Dan Franklin

> Bryan Ellis

> Marc Stephen Garrison

> Charles Givens

> Global Resource Network

> Bill “Tycoon” Greene

> Mark Haroldsen

> Tony Hoffman

> Home Buyers of America

> Joe Kaiser

> Jeff Kaller

> A.D. Kessler

> Ron LeGrand

> Bob Leonetti

> Al Lowry

> Tony Martinez

> Princess Properties

> William McCorkle

> Mike and Irene Milin

> Jimmy Napier

> Nation Wide Real Estate Discounters

> National Affordable Housing Coalition, Inc.

> H. Roger Neal

> Larry Pino

> PMG Mentors

> John Polk

> Marshall Reddick

> Carleton Sheets

> Robert Shemin

> John Stefanchik

> Success Magazine and Fortune 21

> Ted Thomas

> Tom Vu

> Lou Vukas

> Michael T. Warren

> Russ Whitney

> I.G. Williams

> Richard Wood

> for more details click on the links on the site.

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