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Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Thursday, 7 April 2005, at 9:21 p.m.

In Response To: OK Roadie... I've HAD ENOUGH!!! (Jim F)

> I've had enough SPAM! Hoping you might help.

No problem.

> While I've been on the web since '96, I still have my own limitations...
> and how to handle spam is one of them. I've never made a lot of sense out
> of the headers, but then I guess it's just one of those things I don't
> feel I have the time to really spend trying to learn about. So, I'm going
> to ask a PRO... YOU!

There are actually a lot of header-reading tutorials, but nowadays, a lot of spam just can't be stopped at the source, if they're bribing Chinese admins to look the other way when complaints come in.

I estimate only about 20% of my spam is even worth griping about, but for some reason the MLM spammers think I'm some sort of MLM participant, so they send me extra. :-)

> The mailbox I've used since '96 is mostly spam these days. I removed my
> email address from my website, set up a new one a couple of years ago and
> now only use a contact form on my site. That has worked pretty well and
> the only spam I've received on that particular address, I attribute to
> someone on my email list may have been hit by a trojan or similar virus
> that may have had my email address in their list.

Great guess. A lot of goofballs also have some of my addresses in their inbox, and when they get infected as seems inevitable, I get virus-spammed. Simple filteres work, though.

> BUT... That's not my real problem.
> In an effort to better deal with different emails and working on trying to
> make sure I'm complying with the new spam laws, I've started setting some
> other email addresses, including "admin", "domain",
> "abuse", etc. Well, it appears that in less than 2 weeks, I've
> already received my first 2 spam emails to my "admin" address
> and THIS EMAIL ADDRESS HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR A SINGLE EMAIL... NOR HAS
> IT BEEN POSTED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!! THIS IS REALLY STARTING TO BURN
> ME UP!

Spammers for years have used spamware that prepends all those words (yes, even abuse and admin) to EVERY domain name they can spot. That, and dictionary attacks (trying every possible 5, 6, 7, and 8 letter combination) at every domain name they can find explains how totally secret addresses get spammed.

> If you don't have the time, I certainly understand. If you get a little
> time, I'd like to send a copy of it and the headers to you.

Please do - just put something like "FIB" in the subject line so my filters don't silently discard it when they see the body. :-)

What address do you use for domain registration? They get harvested within days by whois-harvesters.

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