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Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 7:36 a.m.

In Response To: Question.... (MaaMaw)

> I'm not doubting your superior powers, Roadie, but could you tell me again
> how we know that isn't the link he had on his clipboard -- the link he
> used to enter the site in the first place, containing the affiliate I.D.
> for the person trying to sign him up??

I just went there and looked. Most affiliate sites have some identification of the person, and this one had the original poster's name. If the name had been unfamiliar, it could have been the person trying to sign him up. In this case, and my history cache agrees, it was signed with this at the bottom:

Major Hinton
major_jr@mailblocks.com

It jumped out at me as suspicious that he had already signed up for the program he wanted us to evaluate.

It's also suspicious that his email address ends up being listed on this site as "banned" for some reason:
http://www.4-quality-traffic.com/banned.php

But I can understand why his main profession is in the dumps right now, and he might be tempted by on-line opportunities. When I saw evidence in the archives from a Feb. 13, 2004 spam run, using the tactic of an illegal break-in to an insecure server in Brazil to send out the spam, advertising a $40 Make Money Fast pyramid scheme called the "Matrix", I really got annoyed.

Major, did you make anything from that Bay Marketing spam run last year? Did you have any idea it was an illegal pyramid, and the statute of limitations for illegal spam tactics like that is four years? That's why it's so important to evaluate things BEFORE you sign up and waste your dollars. I'm sincerely glad you're starting to see that as valuable, even if I sound a little bit harsh about your involvement in spamming.

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