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Re: "pointless suffering"

Posted By: Dale...
Friday, 25 February 2005, at 11:36 a.m.

In Response To: Re: None of us knows for sure, but.... (big BUT).... (The Tim)

Tim:

If you ever bothered to read the Bible, you would understand that not only is there no "pointless" suffering, it would not be and is not part of God's plan...

From what I've read, He wants to SAVE you from suffering, etc...perhaps you should read more of the Book and take a few theology classes before you comment..

Also, I lost my Dad to cancer a few years back...during his last days, he was given increasing doses of painkillers(morphine, etc.)

His respiratory specialist said that they "euthanize" people all the time in hospitals via this method...i.e., hasten "the end"...so why do we need a law that says we can euthanize people when it is already done thousands of times per year...

Alleviating suffering knowing that it can hasten a natural death is a lot different than placing an IV and giving an injection that will cause immediate death...

Dale

Interesting points. Haven't been able to see the video you
> mentioned/linked, but I have my doubts that WHATEVER the cause of her
> condition, she is really trying to communicate NOW. What you've expressed
> in previous posts seems to imply that she has some conscious control over
> her expressions (smiles, etc). If that were the case, then it would be
> easy enough to communicate through yes/no questioning...e.g. Smile if your
> husband strangled you...

> Whatever else is under debate, I do believe the poor woman is for all
> intents brain dead and that's why the idea I floated above hasn't been
> attempted. There was a story done on this a few years ago that made the
> point that although she make look like she's got some level of coherence,
> it's illusory.

> I agree ONE HUNDRED percent that starving her to death is an act of
> inhumanity that goes beyond comprehension. I went through THE EXACT SAME
> thing with my dad a few years ago. Probably posted something here at that
> time. His terminal condition was brought on by liver failure (hepatitis C)
> from a bad blood transfusion he got at the VA med center. Not only was
> death a certainty, but a PAINFUL one at that. It was all I could do to
> make sure they gave him enough morphine while he was still conscious, and
> even then, the docs/nurses were reluctant to dose him properly out of fear
> they might make a junkie out of a man with less than 10 days to live! They
> kept him alive for quite awhile on the feeding tube. They didn't allow him
> to die by starvation/dehydration UNTIL his stomach quit digesting the food
> they were pumping in there!

> Which explains one of my political positions really well. I'm 100% for
> euthanasia, because that's the law that would have had to be in place so
> my dad wouldn't have had to suffer. We treat our mortally wounded pets
> with more compassion than we do ourselves. Much of the opposition to
> euthanasia comes from the Church. I guess they think that pointless
> suffering is part of God's plan?

> Enjoy.

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