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Great post jim!!! DNO DNO

Posted By: The big Dog!
Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 9:53 a.m.

In Response To: But what is sad... (Jim Wilson)

> Is that scammers such as this rarely completely disappear. They just
> reinvent themselves with another domain name and keep right on scamming.

> Such was the case with a website called Dollarsblaster.com. A friend of
> mine asked me to look into it because he was thinking of investing. Sit
> back and read this; I promise it is interesting.

> I looked at the site and then took a look at the whois. Low and behold it
> listed an address right here in Melbourne, Florida where I am. As most of
> you know I am a Firefighter/Paramedic here and I know most of the streets.
> The address listed was one of our major roads, Nasa Blvd, but the address
> did not exist. There wasn't even an empty lot where they listed
> themselves!

> So I email them asking about their service and asking why they would list
> the whois with an incorrect address. Within an hour of my sending my email
> I received a reply. They claimed that it was a mistake on their part, that
> they had moved, and would change the whois soon. Within a week it was
> indeed changed; to an address in Tempe, Arizona.

> So I call a firefighter I know out there and guess what. The address was
> again bogus. By the way both whois listings included an 800 number that
> was "disconnected".

> At this point I told my friend to stay away from this scam. The whole idea
> of how it makes money is by basically pyramiding. I pay you, another guy
> pays me and you, and so on. Because my friend still wasn't convinced I
> told him that I would take the risk, invest, and show him that it was a
> scam.

> I invested my money and immediately ran into problems. It would seem that
> Stormpay had ended their relationship with the service at the time which
> meant that setting up the "affiliate site" would be nearly
> impossible. After about a week they set up an affiliate site for me sans
> Stormpay and I began advertising just a little through their service.
> Basically they say that they will drive traffic to everyone's affiliate
> sites and this will allow everyone to make money. Uh huh, right...

> A month passes and not one sale. I email them asking why I haven't even
> made one sale and they reply; "it takes time, be patient and keep
> posting your ads". At this point because I was suspicious that the
> affiliate site was probably getting at least some hits, I used another pc
> with a different Internet connection and I basically bought from myself.
> To this day that second sale never showed up in my affiliate account.

> In the end because I paid with Paypal I was able to get my money back by
> simply contacting paypal and telling them I had been scammed. I never made
> a sale. And shortly after I emailed paypal the site went down for a bit.
> (It is back up now but is extremely slow) Now the kicker...

> While the site was down I received a "special announcement".
> They were opening up an all new site just like the first one with a
> different name and because I was "such a valued and successful
> affiliate they wanted to offer me first opportunity to join".
> LOL....nope, don't think so.

> Check the whois now and it is some address in India. Good luck checking to
> see if that one is legit or not. The other site started out with a whois
> in the U.S. and once again changed to an address in India.

> The Internet is filled with scams and scammers. The best thing people can
> do to avoid them is simply don't get greedy.

> You CANNOT:

> Make money without working, even online.

> Get free money simply by emailing people or by adding your email to a
> list.

> Make money by buying into something that basically depends on others
> buying beneath you when there is nothing tangible being exchanged and
> expect to make sales.

> Shut down all of the scammers.

> But you can learn more about them which will allow you to avoid them like
> the plague. If they don't make sales, they aren't scamming, and if they
> don't make sales eventually they will go away.

> Jim Wilson

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