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I'd say it is and it isn't (a keeper)......

Posted By: MaaMaw
Tuesday, 8 February 2005, at 5:54 p.m.

In Response To: Re: RE: Home Bus Opps in General (Jim G)

>> Bus Opps are not jobs. You will have to invest $$$ and the chances that you
>> can put in $39.95 and become financially independent and nil.

I agree with that.

>> You want a internet business. YOu have to advertise it one way or another or
>> actually several ways.

But you can have a successful internet business without spending anything beyond the monthly hosting.

This site is an example of that.

Since 1998, my income has fluctuated wildly (from $65.00 one terrible month to $2500 a couple of wonderful months), holding fairly steady between $1000 and $1500 for several years in a row -- and I have not put one DIME into advertising, EVER.

This is a $17.95/month site.

That's it.

No hidden costs. (Except the money I invested in Corey Rudl's course, which is one of those rare "how-to" products that actually *does* explain "how to.")

>> Is that McDonalds fault or the Franchisee?

Obviously the franchisee -- but you cannot compare junk "biz ops" with a legitimate franchise.

>> The point is we cannot expect to put money into any Biz opp and then work it
>> for 4 or 5 hrs total and then scream that it is a scam or it does not work.
>> A business will only be as successful as WE make it.

I agree with what you're saying -- but there are definite SCAMS out there (thousands of them)... "opportunities" that people pay for, then they get their package and they realize they've been scammed.

I don't care whether they have a good or a bad attitude, and I don't care if they're disciplined, ambitious people or lazy couch potatoes. The "opportunity" is a scam. Period.

FOR EXAMPLE -- the envelope-stuffing "programs."

Honest people aren't going to even *try* to make a success of those, because they understand that to do it requires ripping off more people.

I totally agree with you that it's wrong to yell "SCAM!" just because you couldn't make it in a legitimate business. Heck, if I did that, then K&B and Mary Kay would both be scams.

But a scam is a scam is a scam -- and I feel it's unfair to blame the victim of an outright scam and imply they weren't willing to do the work, or they had the wrong attitude, or they didn't have the qualities to succeed.

Luv,

MaaMaw

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