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Re: Gomez peer $$$$

Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Monday, 7 February 2005, at 9:20 a.m.

In Response To: Gomez peer $$$$ (gold bug)

> I have signed up but have not gotten approved yet. I have my reasons, I am
> online a lot and I want to get some eGold for free.

There is no such thing as something for nothing.

You're signing up for a program that will pay you a nickel a day if you stay online. Yet you must accumulate $5.00 worth of payment a month to get paid. A nickel a day won't pay for the electricity to keep the computer on, so it's worth it only if you don't pay for the power.

But you might risk lawsuits, disconnection, and blacklisting.

> Anyone here is an
> active Gomez peer?

If anyone asked me about this one before, I would tell them the same thing I tell you. RUN!

> I am just curious what they use the P2P links but if my
> machine stays relatively fast I will try it.

Your computer might stay fast, but your ISP will get complaints up the wazoo and you may lose your connection. The obvious software they are trying to sucker you into downloading and running in the background is a spam relay engine. Gomez downloads some spam and a list of addresses, and gets YOU to relay them on to the final destination. You take the heat when the complaints come down - that's why they are looking for systems in various countries, some on dialup as well as broadband connections. They're attempting to evade blacklisting of their own mail servers by outsourcing the abuse.

Before everyone says: "WHOA, Roadie! Nobody could EVER think up such an obviously evil business model!" - it's already been done. Gomez is a copycat.

The original spam-relay network was run by an operation called Atriks, by a person named Brian Aberstroh.

Summary:
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK2839

More data:
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listing.lasso?-op=cn&spammer=Brian%20Haberstroh%20/%20Atriks

NEVER, NEVER agree to run software for somebody else without full and truthful disclosure what it's going to do. It's like allowing strangers to pack your luggage and then checking it into a flight that you're also going to take. Risky - risky and stupid.

A nickel a day is NOT worth it, is it? You might have your reasons but you'd do far better by picking up FIVE discarded soda cans by the side of the road and turning them in, assuming you're in a pay-for-recycling location. If you're not, you STILL have got to find a better way to make an extra nickel a day. Seriously, are you in danger of starvation without an extra nickel a day?

Chain letters - expensive and risky

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