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Scammed by International candle

Posted By: Tiffany Contreras
Saturday, 22 January 2005, at 8:41 a.m.

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DISCLAIMER BY LESLEY FOUNTAIN, BOARD OWNER:

Attorneys are coming out of the woodwork right now (not unlike cockroaches). They threaten lawsuits if all negative comments about their clients' companies are not removed from the board.  Well you know what?  This board would quickly become worthless if no one was allowed to speak their mind or share any negative information. 

THEREFORE...

It should be noted that NONE OF THE STATEMENTS OR ALLEGATIONS IN THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE HAVE BEEN VERIFIED.  They could ALL be true, there could be SOME truth in them, OR THEY COULD ALL BE FALSE (as in "sour grapes").  I have NO personal knowledge about this company, and I do NOT claim to know whether their opportunity is legitimate. 

This message provides ONE PERSON'S POINT OF VIEW and ONE PERSON'S EXPERIENCE -- that of the INDIVIDUAL WHO POSTED IT, namely "Tiffany Contreras" at IP# 209.179.199.145, email (none listed) -- and it is your responsibility, as the reader, to CONDUCT YOUR OWN RESEARCH ON THIS COMPANY.

You are strongly advised to CONDUCT YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION and REACH YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.  Your decision whether or not to become involved with this company should be based on A CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF THE FACTS YOU TURN UP and NOT on any individual OPINIONS OR ALLEGATIONS expressed here or elsewhere.

Finally, please read the LEGAL NOTICE at the bottom of this page.  The owner of this board has NOT verified the content of this message.  It represents ONE PERSON'S OPINION and ONE PERSON'S EXPERIENCE, and in the U.S. of A., people are still allowed to express their PERSONAL OPINIONS and SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES.

The following message and the OPINIONS AND ALLEGATIONS contained therein -- which are those of "Tiffany Contreras" and "Tiffany Contreras" alone (IP#209.179.199.145) -- MAY or MAY NOT reflect the opinion of the owner of this board, who has NO information to prove or disprove their validity (and the last time I checked, it was still legal to keep one's opinion to oneself). 

HAS EVERYBODY GOT THAT?

Good.

Carry on.

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I am anouther victim of ICC. They do promise the best candles with the best sents but what you really get is damaged,ugly,unwraped,old stock,non-smelling candles. Thats if you get all your candles which I still have not recieved 500 of them. I paid them $17,500 for something I can't give away. They send a nice sample in jar but out of all my candles not one is like the sample.They sold me an exclusive territory that they had already sold to someone else.I've met with this distributor she has the same issues. The offer customer suport but as soon as you compain they write you off.The store owner where I put my candles in ask me to remove them because they are not selling one in over a month. You can buy a nicer candle in the 99 cent store. They ripped me off .They need to be shut down.

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NOTICE TO SCUMBEEZLES
(you know who you are... you scream "Foul!" when the truth comes out)
        PLEASE READ THIS LEGAL NOTICE CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU FILE A LAWSUIT OR EVEN WASTE TIME THINKING ABOUT IT.  It has been done before, but never successfully.  In fact, the last dodobird who tried it ended up being ordered to pay more than $77,000 in attorney fees ($65,000+ to my attorneys and $12,000+ to my co-defendant's legal advisor).
        If your attorney is worth his salt, he's going to tell you that the expense of filing a lawsuit you can't win is a whole lot worse than any "damages" resulting from messages posted on this insignificant little chunk of cyberspace.
        NEWS FLASH:  I didn't just climb down off that ol' turnip truck yesterday.  I'm well aware that expressing a negative opinion, relating one's personal experience, and restating provable facts are all legal in this country and do not constitute libel, slander, or defamation -- so you don't want to play games with me, and you sure don't want to start something you aren't prepared to finish.  I don't take threats lightly, and I don't accept bribes (or did you call it a "mutually-beneficial arrangement"?).  I'll turn you in faster than you can yell, "ARREST ME, I'M SCUM!!" 
        Do yourself a favor and turn your legal team loose in greener pastures.

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        In closing, I would like to remind you once again that it is still legal, in this great country of ours, to express a PERSONAL OPINION, as long as it is presented as opinion and not as fact.
        And finally, all you scammers out there will do well to remember that TRUTH IS AN ABSOLUTE DEFENSE against charges of libel, defamation, and slander... so if you're operating just a hop, skip, and jump ahead of the law, you might want to think twice before doing anything stupid... (AND SHAME ON YOU!!).