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Posted By: Larry Foster <blackstonecap@yahoo.com>
Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 7:02 p.m.

In Response To: Ooops? (Mel. White)

I apologize, Mel, for my condescending tone. We can agree to disagree about Kiyasaki. Obviously, I am a great fan and have been since I heard him speak at an Amway function before he was famous. Would he have been famous without Amway? I think so, maybe a little slower.
For me, it doesn't matter if Rich Dad is a fictional character. I found the information and insight valuable for me. I believe how you look at things help you determine your outcome. Now, I am not a lockstep disciple. On real estate, which is what I do, I am a long way from him. That doesn't stop me from learning from him.
Allow me to suggest his last 2 books,"Prophecy" and "Who Stole My Money." Less of the story and more of the facts. Good reads. You may like them.
I do respect you as I see you offer a lot of helpful posts here.
The biggest thing I see here is many of the people who post here are very quick to call things scams when they may not be. Yes, there are a whole bunch of scams out there. I would be the first to agree.
Also, the MLM concept is not necessarily totally flawed and a scam.It's just that it's hard to do. There are a number of respected companies that use the model. One that comes to mind, I believe, is Rexall drug. I know there are more but I have not been around the industry for a while. That results in a large failure rate. However, I do think that one can succeed in it if someone learns the second word in network marketing is "marketing".
I am not here to be this board's defender of MLM. I do have my issues with it,too. I am just here to offer that a narrow view of the world will limit people's success.

> That's what I was thinking of... and I was pretty sure it was sold via the
> MLM model, there.

> I have read him (and then read about him) and didn't much care for the
> person presented in the books... and found him rather unilkeable after
> reading about how much of his "biography" was total fiction.
> HOWEVER... you're right; I assumed that because Quixtar was promoting him
> that he had sold it via MLM.

> My goof!

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