REFRESH to rotate MAAMAW'S CLICKY NOTES thru this space..... Timely Tips, Best of the Boards & More



You'll find great information in this "Read Only" Archive, but remember..... things change.
Be sure to visit the Current Message Board when you're finished here.

We're very friendly, so don't be shy... just jump right in and post your question.
Scams outnumber legitimate biz ops about a bzillion to one, so it's well worth your time.


| View Thread | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg |

FIB - Scams 101 - Ye Olde Archives

It smells pretty scammy to me...

Posted By: Dave Mauder (eDave) <dave@NOSPAMmauder.com>
Thursday, 30 December 2004, at 7:26 a.m.

In Response To: Report on a failed attempt... (Stephanie)

Hi Stephanie:

I have to agree with Richie... I went to their website and pulled a small excerpt from their sales pitch:

>> As an Internet "middleman" you don't have to know a thing about computers.
>> In fact, you don't even have to own a computer!

>> There's no selling!
>> No recruiting of family and friends!
>> No motivating others!
>> No talking to customers and no customer service headaches!
>>
>> It's all done for you. In fact, we've made it so simple and easy to get set-
>> up with the 24HourCashFlow system that almost anybody can get started making
>> money right away! We do all the selling for you! And because we've mastered
>> the art of marketing on the Internet, our staff of advertising coaches will
>> be there to help you follow our proven money making system all the way.

Whenever I see claims like this, I run. There is no way, in a legitimate business, that you can get started without knowing anything or doing anything, and expect to make money. Unfortunately, it's our flawed human nature that makes it so tempting to believe wild claims like this. It's the "I want something for nothing" mentality. Common sense tells us it really isn't true -- it's just a matter of what "internal voice" we choose to listen to.

To be honest, selling affiliate products via Google AdWords is the closest I have ever come to making money without recruiting, motivating, or talking to my customers. HOWEVER, I had to know A LOT, and what I didn't know, I had to learn. I first had to learn the AdWords system; how to create an effective ad, how to select keywords properly, how to set my bid amounts and daily budget. That took money and time. Then I bought a couple tools to help me analyze keywords and create new ones. I then had to learn how & where to select good affiliate products, and then I had to know how to write effective headlines and ad copy to generate clicks. Finally, I had to learn how to analyze my results so I know which campaigns are most effective, etc...

I guess what I'm saying is, with AdWords, I could easily put up a website telling people how incredibly easy it is to make money, but I would be flat out lying if I didn't explain all the other things that are involved with being successful at it. If I didn't explain all those other things, all you would do is SPEND money, not make it.

Personally, I think you should pursue your dream of selling jewelry! :-)

Dave

> I just wanted briefly report the results with my attempt at
> 24HourCashFlow.
> My take:
> It is not a *scam*.
> However, the pitches the company gives you to get you to join are filled
> with empty promises.
> Their promise that a freshman in college who is short on both time and
> money can succeed was full of you-know-what.
> Granted, this is a business that *could* work, for the right people.
> The right people would definitely include those who have more money and
> definitely much more time than I have.
> Oh yes, for anyone who wanted to know exactly how I did...
> Three months with 24HourCashFlow and I have made exactly zero dollars. I
> will soon be calling them and asking them to fulfill their guarantee, the
> one that promises that if I do not make any income within 90 days and have
> printed proof of advertising (which I do), they will give me back the
> $100+ (I forgot exact amount) I paid for my websites.
> If you're experienced in marketing and can devote sufficient time to
> 24HourCashFlow, you just might have the potential to earn some income (The
> $100-300 per referal thing they tell you IS the truth, but you have to get
> people to join to earn that).
>
> I think one day I'd like to have my own business selling sterling silver
> jewelry (I have already sold at a couple of holiday fairs and at the local
> flea market--I've made gross sales of about $300. Still working on it)

Thousands of people need your help!

Messages in This Thread

Have you read MAAMAW'S CLICKY NOTES today?
Excuse me... You MISSED them??
At the top o' the page in the blue bars (sheesh!).

| View Thread | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg |

FIB - Scams 101 - Ye Olde Archives is maintained with WebBBS 3.11.


You'll find great information in this "Read Only" Archive, but remember..... things change.
Be sure to visit the Current Message Board when you're finished here.

We're very friendly, so don't be shy... just jump right in and post your question.
Scams outnumber legitimate biz ops about a bzillion to one, so it's well worth your time.



NOTICE TO SCUMBEEZLES
(you know who you are... you scream "Foul!" when the truth comes out)
        PLEASE READ THIS LEGAL NOTICE CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU FILE A LAWSUIT OR EVEN WASTE TIME THINKING ABOUT IT.  It has been done before, but never successfully.  In fact, the last dodobird who tried it ended up being ordered to pay more than $77,000 in attorney fees ($65,000+ to my attorneys and $12,000+ to my co-defendant's legal advisor).
        If your attorney is worth his salt, he's going to tell you that the expense of filing a lawsuit you can't win is a whole lot worse than any "damages" resulting from messages posted on this insignificant little chunk of cyberspace.
        NEWS FLASH:  I didn't just climb down off that ol' turnip truck yesterday.  I'm well aware that expressing a negative opinion, relating one's personal experience, and restating provable facts are all legal in this country and do not constitute libel, slander, or defamation -- so you don't want to play games with me, and you sure don't want to start something you aren't prepared to finish.  I don't take threats lightly, and I don't accept bribes (or did you call it a "mutually-beneficial arrangement"?).  I'll turn you in faster than you can yell, "ARREST ME, I'M SCUM!!" 
        Do yourself a favor and turn your legal team loose in greener pastures.

        Although we may, from time to time, monitor or review discussions, postings and the like on the Friends In Business (Scams 101) Message Board, we are under no obligation to do so.  We are not responsible or liable for any claim arising from the content of any such discussions or postings or for any error, defamation, libel, slander, omission, falsehood, obscenity, pornography, profanity, danger, or inaccuracy contained in any information contained within such locations on the Site.
        You are prohibited from posting or transmitting any unlawful, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene, scandalous, inflammatory, pornographic, or profane materials or any material that could constitute or encourage conduct that would be considered a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or otherwise violate any law.  You are likewise prohibited from posting any false claims against any company or individual.  We will fully cooperate with any law enforcement authorities or court order requesting or directing us to disclose the identity of anyone posting any such information or materials.
        By posting messages and/or content on the Friends In Business (Scams 101) Message Board, you give permission for Lesley Fountain/Friends In Business/Shoestring Success Publications to display, distribute and use the posting and content for publication, advertising, promotion, excerption or example. You grant Lesley Fountain/Friends In Business/Shoestring Success Publications complete, perpetual, but non-exclusive rights to use, archive, reproduce, adapt, modify, distribute, sub-license, repurpose, rework, compile, or offer for sale or resale the messages, postings or content appearing on this site in whole or in part, throughout the world and universe, on a royalty-free basis without remuneration.  If you cannot accept or agree with the terms of service for this website and discussion board, you are advised not to post on this board.
        In closing, I would like to remind you once again that it is still legal, in this great country of ours, to express a PERSONAL OPINION, as long as it is presented as opinion and not as fact.
        And finally, all you scammers out there will do well to remember that TRUTH IS AN ABSOLUTE DEFENSE against charges of libel, defamation, and slander... so if you're operating just a hop, skip, and jump ahead of the law, you might want to think twice before doing anything stupid... (AND SHAME ON YOU!!).