I have a feeling I'm being set up, but I'll answer anyway.....

John, if this isn't a set-up then I apologize, and I will tell you that your losses make me absolutely pukey. (It's nothing personal, just that this board recently became a recruiting tool for another "program," and your message reads like an opening to start it up again.)

What you have told us is *extremely* typical (I know it doesn't help much when you've just been bled dry, but you are definitely not alone).

I'm not talking about any particular "opportunity" here. Your story (and my advice) could apply to most any of them.

> This was supposed to
> catapult us to "qualification" so we could be in "a money
> making position".

Oh god, where have I heard that before??

> So I took the last $1200.00 out of our savings and
> sent my wife (we live in toronto).

Ouch.

> When she came back, I asked her about
> the experience. She said that everyone was great and that people are so
> thoughtfull and happy. I then asked her what she learned and she said that
> she learned about all the wonderful business tools out there to help us
> explode our business. I asked her if she got her money's worth. She felt
> obligated somehow to say yes, but deep down I could tell that she too was
> wondering if it was worth it.

Deja vu!!

You feel ecstatic while you're there -- those weekends are carefully orchestrated to suck you in (when you're done here, be sure to read my articles here and here and see if your wife recognizes herself and her comrades.

> The business opportunity has sucked money
> right out of our pockets. We have spent $1000's of dollars on advertising
> and have been made by leaders to personally feel responsible for our
> failure to succeed.

BINGO!! It's always your fault -- ALWAYS.

There's a method to their madness. As long as you believe it's your fault, you'll be relatively quiet because you're beaten and humiliated. It's when you realize it ISN'T your fault -- you've "worked the program" -- that you start getting loud, and that's very VERY dangerous for the guys at the top (again, I'm not talking about Liberty League but about virtually EVERY such program).

> When we ask about the most effective way to advertise,
> we are told that there are many different ways and that we just have to
> start trying.

Yes, by all means, START TRYING!! Obviously you weren't trying when you spent thousands of dollars on advertising (gag).

> Although the program is awesome,

WHY?

WHAT MAKES THE PROGRAM AWESOME?

Sorry to yell, but I can hear myself and it's making me want to scream.

Is it awesome because they told you it's awesome?

Is it awesome because they hypnotize the people at the conferences into believing it's awesome?

Is it awesome because so many people just like you are making their fortune?

I'd venture to guess it's all of the above -- but that doesn't make the program awesome. It just means the PEDDLERS of the program are awesome, and the PITCH is awesome, and the HYPE is awesome.

That's all.

If the program were awesome, people would actually be making money (note there's a difference between "actually making money" and "claiming to make money") and spending their time "working the program" -- not going to these expensive rah-rah rallies.

> I can't help but feel that
> the next levels (conferences @ $7995 USD, and $12995.00 for 3 days and 5
> days respectively), is highly overpriced and full of rah rah.

This part makes me queasy because I'm not sure how you can even consider this if you have spent the last of your savings, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're real because this is good information for anyone and everyone stuck in the same pile of cow dung.

DON'T DO IT!! PLEASE DON'T DO IT!!

Trust me, I know how hard it is to quit with success just around the corner -- knowing all you have to do is work a little harder or a little smarter or invest a little more cash -- but DON'T DO IT!!

Cut your losses and stop NOW.

You're headed nowhere but bankruptcy court and maybe divorce court (financial ruin puts great strain on a marriage).

> I wish I
> could find a company that sold a great product that I believe in, at a
> reasonable price , with an excellent compensation plan that rewarded you
> for your efforts.

Quit looking.

Stick with a job, or learn to strike out on your own.

You don't need any of "the programs" out there -- the "programs" need you.

A WORD OF WARNING:

You are now "scam bait," and you will be hearing from people telling you their program is the best thing since god made chocolate. It ain't so. A program is a program is a program.

I have removed your email address just in case you're for real (I really hope you are), but no telling who saw it before I got here. Come back here, toss around ideas, tell us what your interests are and ask for advice -- but don't fall for any more of this crap.

Hope this helps, and I'm sorry for your loss.

Luv,