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Posted By: Jim G In Response To: I'm not one to "de-scam" something, but.... (MaaMaw)
Wednesday, 1 December 2004, at 6:13 p.m.
> I'm not sure an opportunity can be called a scam if they don't ask for
> money.
But actually, they kinda do. It’s made quite clear one cannot make the big bonuses unless one buys stuff - over and above selling stuff.
Why does it call itself “an affiliate” program when it admits to being Network Marketing. Network Marketing = MLM.
In the latest T-Net Brochure, it presents the down line and shows how you get “awarded” a spot in your sponsor’s second level or below. The first level can only have two affiliates - so it’s likely already full up. Besides, on your sponsor’s second level and below, you get to help your sponsor make a lot more money...while you plan ahead to stick somebody on YOUR second level or below.
In its training material, the first people it tells you to “prospect” are those in your family and among your friends. In other words, the same thing all other MLMs tell you to do.
And the products they have available for you to sell and BUY - suck big time.
It seems to verify an earlier claim that this sort of marketing is just not good business.
Jim G
> They give you a web site, they tell you how to promote it, and they pay
> you a commission if you sell anything (emphasis on *IF*).
> I tend to think (in this ONE particular type of situation) that those who
> yell "SCAM!" are just disgruntled because they didn't make any
> money. (If you continue reading down on one of those Ripoff boards, you
> will see several people who claim to be making "some" money,
> then the "Scam" person starts screaming, "SHUT YOUR FILTHY
> SHILL MOUTH!!" (which isn't very convincing).
> I don't have any intention of selling the stuff, but I went and signed up
> as an affiliate just to make sure they didn't take me through the back
> door to an "order page" where they asked for money.
> They did not.
> You get the store free, they fill the orders (if you get any), they ship
> the products (if you sell any), and they send you a commission check.
> What I don't like is the MLM aspect of this particular
> "opportunity."
> They encourage YOU to buy the stuff yourself... you need "10
> points" each month or some such rot in order to make the highest
> commission (as you can see, I haven't delved too deeply). On one page I
> found a "Good" "Better" and "Best" scenario,
> and all involve YOU buying the stuff.
> I hate that.
> It's fine to "buy for personal use," but dammit, the affiliate
> should NOT be the customer!!
> Customers come from the outside. Costco employees aren't required to
> "shop for personal use" in order to qualify to receive
> paychecks. But does that mean you *can't* retail to the general public? I
> don't think so. If you promote your site enough, who says you can't?
> Misleading? Maybe.
> Inflated income projections? Maybe.
> Scam? I don't think so.
> Sucky System? I think so. Give me a store where I sell RETAIL to CUSTOMERS
> and I don't have to buy ANYTHING myself in order to qualify thank you.
> In any case, Bonnie Lee, it isn't possible to predict when (or if)
> (emphasis on IF) your friend will make $2,000 a month -- in fact, it isn't
> possible to predict whether your friend will ever make a dime. About the
> $2000 a month... I would tell him not to hold his breath.
> Luv,
> MaaMaw
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