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Posted By: Roy Addams In Response To: Has anyone heard of Vendorpro.com? (Angela)
Friday, 19 November 2004, at 10:06 p.m.
I have just sent them this letter:
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Mr. Ethan Nelson.
After carefully reviewing what we have discussed I have concluded that my company will not be working with vendorpro.
I'm going to level with you. I don't trust you. You give me no reason to.
(Before I continue I want to express that I did not appreciate being given lines used by pyramid schemes and weight-loss commercials. I look upon that kind of copy paste crap as an insult to my intelligence. I'm not some sucker, don't talk to me like one. Your testimonials are faceless. Who is "Beth O. - Las Cruces, NM"? This person gave you a quote and you couldn't at least put a link to them for us to see that she is a real business and not just some B.S. you made up.)
I asked for a list of clients in the music industry to research how well your company is working for them and to see what large name companies I may deal with through vendorpro. You sent me the answer:
"While we have over 4000 suppliers it is against our policy to release, sell, or disseminate the information of registered members to non-registered users."
First off you said "Suppliers" not "Buyers". Second, it is not in the best interest of ANY buyer OR seller for you to keep them a secret. Keeping products secret is NOT how to make them sell. And why are you letting members know this if it violates privicy? And doesn't this contradict your use of the work "Exposure" all over your website?
This made me look at your company as if I was a buyer.
What reason would I have to buy from you? I have no idea what you are selling. I cannot find any products being dealt with by your company through any search engines. What reason would I have to pay $340 a year just to look at your product list on your website when I can just as well find what I'm looking for, for FREE.
When you first solicited your company to me you led me to believe that you were a distributor. This was backed by the name of your company (Vendor)Pro. After discussing things with you I have assessed that the sum of what your company does is supply a web page for me to advertise (not sell) up to three products, Plus a spot on a private spam sent out to members for a fee of $340 a year. (When I already have this on 40 other websites for free)
Part of your pitch was that you were going to give me a link on that web page to my own website for free(normally $45). Truthfully I will say the fact you would charge someone $45 to add a link is despicable. Even if they didn't just pay you $340. My website gets thousands of hits a week from google alone from people looking for the products I sell. Give me one good reason why I would pay ANYONE to put a link on their site, And a private site that no one in the general public can view at that?
You also said you would throw in a free posting on the "Look what's new" page (normally $85). Again, I just paid you $340 to give me exposure and you would charge me AGAIN to put me on a "What's new" list.
As I mentioned, I have looked at your BBB record and well.....And of coarse there's no problem. what can anyone do when their merchandise doesn't sell? Unless they personally investigate your company to see if you are lifting a finger to help them your ass is covered by your (in between the lines) "while other products don't move at all. That's just the nature of business."
Bottom line. I strongly feel that I would pay you $340 and be lucky to make it back because If I were to advertise my products on a national scale how would anyone even know they can buy it from you?
I'm going to take that $340 and place adds in national magazines such as Metal Maniacs and Terrorizer that will give my artist true exposure and drive my sales without a middle man.
Thank you for your time.
-Roy Addams, www.dark-valley-records.com
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