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Well said, Kim...

Posted By: Sammy Singer
Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 6:49 p.m.

In Response To: Wow, can I get a response in here! (Kim)

Kim,

People, especially on this forum and certainly on most forums geared for newbies and sammed folks, everything that sounds like scam is shoved aside and bashed.

Now, do not get me wrong, I believe that most biz opps and marketing programs (like Cory Rudl's course) are marketed using too many dreamy headlines and frivilous pseudo-claims of decent to extraordinary income "potential"... "Potential" being the key word here. Even so, many of these companies have good programs that can work. It just is not as easy as their ads and sales letters make it seem and it take A LOT of will and hard, long hours of work (and possibly even some money).

But I, as well as most of these marketers, understand that there is no money to be made in honesty...especially in biz opps. There just aren't enough entrepreneurs out there that can make it work. So the solution is to market it to those that are looking for something easy and profitable.

This is very immoral. There is no doubt in my mind. HOwever, this is the way of the world. You can either complain about it and get nowhere or accept it and play along or try to change it (but good luck with that).

My 2 cents from years of observation and experience.

Sammy.

PS. But Kim, I have to admit that something makes you look kinda fishy. If you actually believe in your business then why do you hide your last name? Just curious.

> Hello,

> I see there have bee
n a lot of posts on
> my business in here. I would like to take
> a few moments and address everyones comments
> and questions and give you all the facts.

> First, we do not hide anything about our
> business or products. The page I list
> www.moneyeverytime.com is a lead capture page.
> If someone wants more information they would
> fill out the short form and the next page has
> tons of info on our business.

> The reason we have someone fill out a form before receiving
> information is to capture the persons email
> and phone #. This will allow our autoresponder
> system to send the prospect more information
> via email over a period of a few weeks. We ask
> for a phone # so we can call the opt in once
> to personally invite them to a call. We do not
> harass anyone and people can easily remove
> themselves from the database.

> The lead capture page is designed only to spark
> enough curiosity to take the person to the next step to learn more.
> It is a splash page, not the company site and is not
> intended to give all the facts on the business.

> If anyone is lookin

for more information
> on our business and does not feel comfortable
> adding their phone #, simply put 123 where
> it asks for that information. You will
> then be able to learn everything you'd like
> about the business. www.moneyeverytime.com

> However, if you do not feel comfortable
> giving your information, as some of you have
> expressed, you can certainly skip over the
> lead capture page and go directly to
> www.profit1000.com . This is the same
> page one is forwarded to after filling
> out the form on moneyeverytime.

> Someone posted that they dont believe you
> can make $3-$7,000 a week in any opportunity.
> Our very first week in this business, we
> earned $8,000. This week alone,
> (and its only Wednesday) we have already earned
> $3,000. Its totally attainable with our business
> because we make a very high profit of $1000 a
> sale. It doesn't take hundreds and hundreds of
> people to make big money here. If you had 4 brand
> new people join your team this week, you would have
> made $4,000 ... its as simple as that!

> Its unfortunate so many people are conditioned
> to believe you cant make this kind of income.
> Anyone can achieve this level of success as
> long as they are coachable, trainable and have
> a high desire to succeed.

> So here is our company site so you can learn the facts.

> 1. You can learn more about the product line by
> going to: www.wealthandself.com/dynamic.

> 2. Our company site is www.emeraldpassport.cc/dynamic.

> 3. Lastly, our industry has been written up in Forbes Magazine.
> Here is the link to see why... http://www.epibiz.com/forbes .

> As you can see there is a lot of information. This is the reason
> we prefer people to go through the system the way it is layed out
> so they do not feel overwhelmed. If anyone has any questions
> or concerns, feel free to email me or post to the board and
> I will get back with you.

> Kimberly and James
> 718-417-9148

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